“People are machines of forgetfulness.” — Henri Barbusse After the last two years of dystopia, people can be categorized, roughly, into three groups: those who understood the point, those who missed the point, and those who understood the wrong point. Sadly, many of the people that were deeply scrutinous of the pandemic dysphoria are falling into the latter category these days. I am talking about the Russia-Ukraine war, and more specifically, the response to that war in the skeptic community. There are many that are eating up the media coverage of this war and some like Alex Bereson have even called his followers “useful idiots” for questioning the official narrative. Obviously, I do not want to live in an echo chamber, so normally I would say differing views are important. But I have been following the situation in Ukraine closely
"Ukraine is not a country worth fighting a thermonuclear war over."
This. Times one thousand.
I'll also say that the least bloody and destructive thing to do, when a region of a country overwhelmingly no longer wishes to be part of that country, is to let them go. It seems quite clear that Crimea and Donbas do not wish to be part of Ukraine, particularly not an anti-Russian Ukraine. Sadly, a peaceful divorce is something that rarely happens.
The US meddling in Ukraine made zero sense, why overthrow a democratically elected government with a Soros/CIA coup and replace them with a bunch of Neonazi clowns?
It makes sense now, this was a placeholder event for the future to manufacture another crisis.
"After the last two years of dystopia, people can be categorized, roughly, into three groups: those who understood the point, those who missed the point, and those who understood the wrong point"
There is another category: those who are wilfully ignorant and don't want to know. As a "conspiracy theorist", I understand these people. I call them ostriches. To be fair, this is all very frightening and it's a reptilian brain response. Fight or flight. Most choose flight. I don't blame them to be quite honest.
"There are many that are eating up the media coverage of this war and some like Alex Bereson have even called his followers “useful idiots” for questioning the official narrative"
Berenson is not the only one. Toby Young at DailySceptics is the same. They now believe the lugenpresse and lying politicians they knew were lying about Covid. Gell-Mann Amnesia at its finest.
Also, these people are quite intelligent but clearly not quite high IQ enough/knowledgeable enough to be good at this whole "conspiracy theorist" game on a global level.
You missed the boat on this one, totally, and omitted WAAAAY too much history. Go back much further, and stop with the "neo-Nazi" smears. Go back to the real definition of National Socialism, to start, as Mussolini defined it, as "state corporatism". Try defining what are really Ukrainian nationalist organizations that way, and you'll see how silly it is.
First realize why some in Ukraine were so much more receptive to the Germans in WWII. Go back to the Red Army pogroms in 1917-1920, where millions of Ukrainians were murdered. Then fill in the Holodomor in 1932-33 when millions of Ukrainians were starved by Stalin, and it's pretty simple to see why Ukrainians might have seen the German army as liberators from the genocidal murderous Bolsheviks and the Red Army, who killed 100 times as many Ukrainians as the Germans did.
After WWII, Ukraine didn't have it much better, which explains why an astounding 92% of Ukrainians voted for independence from Russia in 1991 when the USSR collapsed. Even the Donbass and Crimea (54%) voted for independence, which is why they were included in Ukraine, not Russia. Ever since then, particularly in those two regions, Putin has been settling Russians in order to to bring them back to Russia. It has much to do with Black Sea access and natural gas (Crimea), and coal (Donbass).
Try as you might, you cannot make this about a struggle between Russia and NATO, that's a smokescreen. Notice when Zelenskyy mentioned he would give up all efforts to join NATO to preserve Ukraine as an independent nation, nothing has changed with Putin; the invasion continues.
In fact, Ukraine SHOULD have been protected by the UN agreement in 1994, signed by Boris Yeltsin, which supposedly guaranteed Ukrainian sovereignty in exchange for Ukraine surrendering its nuclear arsenal to Russia. That document was part of the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty, and was signed also by the US and UK who also agreed to respect Ukrainian territory. INCLUDING Crimea and the Donbass, which have been "soft-invaded" by Russia.
Clearly KGB thug Putin regards any agreement he didn't personally sign as invalid, to the horror of Ukrainians. Anybody who picks and chooses a few communications or a few actions, without understanding the bigger picture, is twisting history. You get a D- on this one.
"Ukraine is not a country worth fighting a thermonuclear war over."
This. Times one thousand.
I'll also say that the least bloody and destructive thing to do, when a region of a country overwhelmingly no longer wishes to be part of that country, is to let them go. It seems quite clear that Crimea and Donbas do not wish to be part of Ukraine, particularly not an anti-Russian Ukraine. Sadly, a peaceful divorce is something that rarely happens.
So which country is worth getting into a thermonuclear war over?
Excellent work.
The US meddling in Ukraine made zero sense, why overthrow a democratically elected government with a Soros/CIA coup and replace them with a bunch of Neonazi clowns?
It makes sense now, this was a placeholder event for the future to manufacture another crisis.
"After the last two years of dystopia, people can be categorized, roughly, into three groups: those who understood the point, those who missed the point, and those who understood the wrong point"
There is another category: those who are wilfully ignorant and don't want to know. As a "conspiracy theorist", I understand these people. I call them ostriches. To be fair, this is all very frightening and it's a reptilian brain response. Fight or flight. Most choose flight. I don't blame them to be quite honest.
"There are many that are eating up the media coverage of this war and some like Alex Bereson have even called his followers “useful idiots” for questioning the official narrative"
Berenson is not the only one. Toby Young at DailySceptics is the same. They now believe the lugenpresse and lying politicians they knew were lying about Covid. Gell-Mann Amnesia at its finest.
Also, these people are quite intelligent but clearly not quite high IQ enough/knowledgeable enough to be good at this whole "conspiracy theorist" game on a global level.
Do not write about things you are ignorant about. Some key facts were conveniently dropped, other facts twisted to fit this fake narrative. Comrade.
You missed the boat on this one, totally, and omitted WAAAAY too much history. Go back much further, and stop with the "neo-Nazi" smears. Go back to the real definition of National Socialism, to start, as Mussolini defined it, as "state corporatism". Try defining what are really Ukrainian nationalist organizations that way, and you'll see how silly it is.
First realize why some in Ukraine were so much more receptive to the Germans in WWII. Go back to the Red Army pogroms in 1917-1920, where millions of Ukrainians were murdered. Then fill in the Holodomor in 1932-33 when millions of Ukrainians were starved by Stalin, and it's pretty simple to see why Ukrainians might have seen the German army as liberators from the genocidal murderous Bolsheviks and the Red Army, who killed 100 times as many Ukrainians as the Germans did.
After WWII, Ukraine didn't have it much better, which explains why an astounding 92% of Ukrainians voted for independence from Russia in 1991 when the USSR collapsed. Even the Donbass and Crimea (54%) voted for independence, which is why they were included in Ukraine, not Russia. Ever since then, particularly in those two regions, Putin has been settling Russians in order to to bring them back to Russia. It has much to do with Black Sea access and natural gas (Crimea), and coal (Donbass).
Try as you might, you cannot make this about a struggle between Russia and NATO, that's a smokescreen. Notice when Zelenskyy mentioned he would give up all efforts to join NATO to preserve Ukraine as an independent nation, nothing has changed with Putin; the invasion continues.
In fact, Ukraine SHOULD have been protected by the UN agreement in 1994, signed by Boris Yeltsin, which supposedly guaranteed Ukrainian sovereignty in exchange for Ukraine surrendering its nuclear arsenal to Russia. That document was part of the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty, and was signed also by the US and UK who also agreed to respect Ukrainian territory. INCLUDING Crimea and the Donbass, which have been "soft-invaded" by Russia.
Clearly KGB thug Putin regards any agreement he didn't personally sign as invalid, to the horror of Ukrainians. Anybody who picks and chooses a few communications or a few actions, without understanding the bigger picture, is twisting history. You get a D- on this one.
https://www.un.org/en/ga/search/view_doc.asp?symbol=A/49/765
No sources. Only russian propaganda.