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Phoenix's avatar

I feel a little like this confuses the article. They are claiming that the nocebo effect is similar to the placebo effect, but for the comparator arm. Basically, people are expecting adverse effects to happen, so they get a headache or whatever after they get the vaccine.

Which of course is silly, because if that were the case, both the placebo and vaccine arms would have the same rate of events. There is literally no reason why we would see this so-called nocebo effect occur at a higher rate than the placebo effect.

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TB's avatar

What exactly does the "76%" number mean anyway? Is it saying that the placebo "caused" 76% as many "adverse reactions" as the real thing, therefore maybe that many of the jab reactions are "in their head"? If that's what they're saying, then a more honest way of putting it would be that "there is a ~33% greater chance of minor adverse events in the jab compared to the placebo".

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