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Potatohead's avatar

I have assumed that unvaxxed like me don't bother with the test because a few days of sneezing wasn't that bad. Have I had covid? No idea, never tested. I have some in the garage my work gave me. When we get to the stepping over bodies in the street phase then maybe I'll test.

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Jestre's avatar

Agree. That's one of the reasons test negative designs are weak (not used properly and vaccinated/unvaccinated get tested for different reasons) and I wouldn't read too much into test positivity. What really bothered me here is Walgreens saying people that test positive less are also less symptomatic and then controlling it to say those people are actually more likely to test positive...

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UM Ross's avatar

Walgreens' hand-waving reminds me of the UK's NHS/HSA reports before they stopped publishing good data. "Here's the data, but you shouldn't interpret it to mean what it shows!"

Yeah, sure.

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Jestre's avatar

Ah flashbacks

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RANGER71's avatar

Well... 2 years after this so called pandemic virus 🦠 I haven’t got tested + I don’t trust them & I don’t trust the safe and effective shots. 🩸

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

I agree with Potatoehead here, had some sniffles myself a couple of times but did not test (the test itself seems far from safe and far from accurate ). Several friends told me the same. What I conclude from the article's graphs, is that Walgreens is straight out lying. Well we are by now used to that right?

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Helen's avatar

I agree with you about not getting tested. I did get tested once because I was supposed to have surgery last year for a broken humerus bone. I was given the option of the swab or gargle. I chose the gargle. I would never had taken the testing if not for the scheduled surgery, which ironically was canceled two minutes before I was supposed to get it. Fortunately for me it gave me time to reconsider the surgery and I elected to cancel it. Best decision I ever made. I recovered beautifully. I was also told that when in surgery and knocked out it was policy to retest me and with the swab. So I dodged that bullet. So far in nearly 3 years I haven't had so much as a sniffle. Neither has my partner. I'm unvaccinated and he is 2 plus booster.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

Congrats on all counts !

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norstadt's avatar

They write: "Controlling for additional factors leads to a larger difference between groups.”

But they don't say which group looks better after "[c]ontrolling for additional factors". The previous sentence's implication may be a lawyerly ruse.

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Jestre's avatar

Good catch. Nor do they say what those additional factors are.

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Rikard's avatar

Did an anti-body blood test last year to see if I have anti-bodies for Covid (any variant then current). Nope. As to the validity of the test or how accurate it is, the nurse doing became quite inflamed that I would even ask - "If you don't trust that we do our best, why are you here?" kind of attitude.

Repeating the question and pointing out that I'm simply curious and that knowing about accurace et c. for a test I've just taken is kind of important, and that I paid the eq. of $70 for the test in the first place was like talking biology with a feminist.

On the other hand, I only meet other people when going to a town to stock up, so my rate of potential exposure is quite low.

Should be a nice challenge for a stat-head tha, factor in population density vis-a-vis risk of exposure and risk of infection. Most people here in the countryside live active physically tasking outdoors kind of lives, no matter their age. A relative who is on the far side of 85 still cuts his own timber and splits it into firewood. That's rather impressive considering that he have to heft pieces of the bole weighing som 30 kilos onto the chopping stump, and cleave them manually.

Now show me an inner city latte-mocha-frappo-crappo-chini sipping simp of an IT-techie hipster doing that. Should be a good freak show, going by what I see when such people visit their relatives out in the deep dark forests.

Topic, what topic? I'm ranting over here!

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Guy Gin's avatar

“Furthermore, repeat testing among those who were previously positive in the last 90 days appear to confound the results.” Now that’s interesting. If the vaccinated are symptomatic and testing positive twice in the space of 90 days at higher rates than the unvaccinated, it could be evidence of Original Antigenic Sin, which El Gato Malo and others have been warning about. In short, the vaccines leave you with an inadequate immune response, leading you to be reinfected more easily.

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Joel Smalley's avatar

Inevitably they are. All pharma institutions and their employees are captured and captivated respectively by the COVID mania.

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Ms. P's avatar

Oh my ...sorry a bit off-topic but not. Just when my family was being treated in a slightly humane way, Fisman has come out with this doozy: And he is getting all kinds of MSM traction with his "modelling," including in G and M.

https://www.cp24.com/news/mixing-with-unvaccinated-increases-covid-19-risk-for-vaccinated-people-study-finds-1.5874637

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